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about the nsa. "the washington post" just reporting the nsa has broken privacy rules or overstepped legal authority thousands of times each year since 2008. according to an internal audit, most of the violations are of americans or foreign intelligence officials in the united states. and the "washington post" also reporting that the chief judge of the secret court that's supposed to provide oversight of the government's spying program says the court's ability to do so is limited. john sununu joins us. good evening, sir. >> good evening. >> with the news breaking, certainly an expansion of what we have been hearing about the nsa in terms of swpying. your thoughts? >> two things. a lot of what happens in an agency, even the nsa, is a reflection of the culture they see from the top. you have a. president and administration that levels in going beyond the box f you will, that they are limited to by law. i think that seeped all the way down into the nsa. even though the audit says i think it's in the last year they point out there's nearly 3,000 violati violations, it does say that the b
, the nsa's own internal audit reveals the agency has broken its own privacy rules and overstepped its legal authority thousands of times a year. then we go to cairo where the muslim brotherhood has called for a day of rage after more than 600 people were killed on wednesday. >> the one thing people will not stand for in the long term is to have this kind of regressive security state inflicted upon them. once the targets of this authoritarian apparatus moves away from the islamists and starts imposing itself on other parts of egyptian society, then perhaps,e might see, once again a popular uprising against that kind of crackdown. >> we will speak with sharif abdel kouddous in cairo and p.j. crowley, former state department spokesperson, who is called for the u.s. to suspend military aid to egypt and call the ouster of mohamed morsi a coup. then, didn't eight-year-old spy for america? we look at how u.s. allies in yemen used a child the place electronic chips on the man he considered to be his surrogate father. days later, the man was killed in u.s. drone strike. all of that and more coming u
returning from his vacation overnight. and he is already on the defense over the latest details in the nsa spying scandal. >> reporter: good morning. the white house says the violation don't reflect any willful law breaking. the detail report white house aides say nsa is aggressively monitoring itself. more documents leaked about the nsa the national secure agency listening in on people's phone calls or reading their emails and failing to report their violations to the frn isa court. some members of congress find the latest leak about the nsa more troubling. senator rand paul wants to take the scandal to the highest court in the land. >> the only way to fine justice you have to hear both side. there needs to be a discussion from people who are a little bit more skeptical of the nsa in an open court, i think, before the supreme court on this program. >> reporter: the latest information comes from documents that nsa leaker edward snowden released. they detail thousands of privacy violations made by nsa. president obama denies the government is abusing the programs. congressman pete king who
to embassies or consulates. >> very frightening, jon, and thank you to you. >>> and while the nsa helped uncover this latest terror threat, there are also new revelations this morning in the controversy over its secret surveillance programs. glenn greenwald from "the guardian" newspaper has been at the center of all this breaking the story with his interview with edward snowden, and he joins us now from brazil. good morning, glenn. you're reporting there are new frustrations, frustrations in congress about being thwarted in attempts to exercise oversight. what does that mean, and who is stopping them? >> members of congress, members from both political parties actually came to us and showed us all kinds of letters and e-mails that they've been exchanging in which they're trying to get the most basic information about what the nsa is doing and spying on american citizens and what the fisa court has been doing in terms of declaring some of this illegal, some of it legal. remember, we keep hearing that there's all kinds of robust oversight by congress and we need not worry and yet these mem
bombshell rocking the nsa. new reports reveal the intelligence agency violated privacy rules thousands of times since 2008. >>> plus a "day of rage" sweeping across egypt today. at least 17 people dead already as thousands take to the streets in response to the bloody crack down early they are week that killed 600. >>> and a new book blowing some holes in the age-old rules of pregnancy. are alcohol and caffeine really off limits? it's all "happening now." jon: but we begin on this friday morning with stunning new developments in the nsa spying scandal. new reports the intelligence agency has broken privacy rules or overstepped its legal authority thousands of times each year since 2008. good morning to you, i'm jon scott. >> i'm allison cam rot tax in for general that lee. jon: mice to have you here. >> we have a lot of news, because details come from nsa leaker edward snowden. he shared them with the "washington post." we have infractions was unauthorized surveillance of u.s. citizens. >> a lot of what happens in the agency, even the nsa is reflection of the culture they see from the
his third solo news conference of the year where he was questioned about the nsa, benghazi, russia, and immigration reform. he was most passionate when attacking republicans over obamacare. >> at least they used to say, we'll replace it with something better. there is not even a pretense now that they'll replace it with something better. the notion is simply that those 30 million people, or the 150 million benefiting from the other aspects of affordable care will be better off without it. >> joining us now, the co-host of the five, dana perino. you used to be press secretary for president bush. and after his press conference you would give him a critique. you would go into the oval office. he would try get to you to leave because you're very, very annoying. there's you. you look very different. what did you do? what would you tell president obama if you were going to the oval office about this particular press conference? >> well, a trip down memory lane. i love press conference day. i love to prepare for a press conference i love to prepare somebody else to answer questions. then
to make an opening statement about the nsa and major changes in the program of collecting met d meta-data becaf all the criticism he has got. people are anticipating and buzzing about that. we got into the east room, 20 minutes ahead of time. everybody gets their seats, and then they give the two-minute warning. the president comes in, and he covered a whole range of topics. this was really a media news conference. i'm sure you read and heard a lot about it. he talked about immigration reform. he talked about whether or not there would be a government shutdown. he talked about larry summers and janet yellen as new chairman of the fed. and he talked about putin. he said that putin sits in a slouch like's a high school likl student sitting in the back chair of the room like he's a high school student. he talked about the olympics, there was no way we were going to boycott the olympics but we were going to defend lgbt and coming home with a medal is the best way to combat bias in russia. then he spent the rest of the time talking about nsa, the spy program, and that's when he started. h
and criticizing washington for the handling of the nsa leak case. he says the former analyst will remain in russia for the foreseeable future. isright now, edward snowden beyond alarm -- the long armf the law, but his father suggests he could come home to face trial. the nsa leaker is not headed back to the united states because he will not get a fair trial. my son tother i will come home if i believe in the justice system that we should be afforded will be applied correctly. >> and tell that he says he will visit his son in russia. homeolitical furor here at shows no sign of cooling off. before leaving for his vacation on martha's vineyard president obama said he had already been moving the nsa toward more transparency and accountability. >> i don't think mr. snowden was a patriot. >> he betrayed his oath of office for a generation that believe he is a jason bourne and there has got to be some transportation. he has failed to explain these programs which are lawful which has saved lives which of stopped terrorists. >> washington wants edwards noted brought back home to face justice. he would like
about her recovery. also where her head and heart are now in the 8:00 hour. >>> also new the nsa breaking the rules when it comes to your privacy. the agency violated privacy regulations thousands of times each year, this according to an internal audit of documents obtained by "the washington post" from none other than nsa leaker edward snowden. white house correspondent dan lothian is live from martha's vineyard this morning. dan, sounds like there are more big questions for the administration today. >> reporter: that's right, certainly more big questions, kate. you know "the washington post" revealing in this report that the lechl of detail and analysis they uncovered is usually more than typically shared with member of congress or the fisa court that oversees the nation's surveillance programs. >> a general impression has i think taken hold not only among the american public but also around the world that somehow we're out there willy-nilly. >> reporter: that was president obama just days ago assuring the american public that the national security agency was not breaching the
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're basically getting a newhe roommate, the nsa, and you cann kiss the 4th amendment good-bye. we know companies like microsoft are willing to cooperate with nsa. a if you report says local law l enforcement agencies are taking information surveillance fromsa the nsa and arresting americans because of that surveillance. what you're doing is inviting the government into your home. that, to me, is very dangerous. >> wayne, you have to be careful what you wear when you're watching tv. they might flip the switch and v watch you right back? >> that's true. and i agree.hey it's a terrible thing to have the government watching you for anything. federal geet the government out of awful our lives. however, nobody is forcing you once again to buy that particular television that has a that camera in it.at c it's like buying a gun. you know a gun can kill somebody, might even kill you if you own the gun. so you got to be careful.n. so if you buy that television that has that camera, you're taking that risk. you don't have to -- wayne -- nobody is forcing you, but you buy the tv with the expectation thatpect
. now, the nsa calls them mistakes. jennifer griffin in washington for us with details. >> heather, the may 2012 internal nsa audit showed thousands of privacy violations in one year alone. in some cases, the nsa was monitoring the phone records of residents of washington, d.c., whose area code 202 is similar to that of egypt. nsa compliance director john delong said the violations were not willful wior malicious and represented a, quote, minuscule percentage of nsa surveillance activity during a rare conference call by the super-secret spy agency. nsa whistle-blower edward snowden provided newspapers the documents months ago. forrer house speaker nancy pelosi called the revelations extremely disturbing, democratic senator pat leahy plans to hold more judiciary hearings to investigate. >> the nsa has become a menace, and the constitutional rights of americans are under a broad assault here. the fourth amendment right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, the first amendment right for freedom of speech, these are under attack. >> the chairman of the house and senate intel
new guidelines to make government surveillance more transparent. former cia and nsa director michael hayden noted today that the president never actually said anything had been done wrong. >> to me, the most telling thing she said was perhaps something he didn't quite say. he didn't suggest he was going to operationally change this program. i mean, there's no suggestion that what he was doing, and what president bush was doing before him with regard to these programs was anything other than lawful, effective and appropriate. >> on "meet the press," republican iowa congressman steve king stood by his comments about immigrants he made last month, saying that his remarks about drug smugglers outnumbering valedictorians were accurate and new legislation granting the shorter path to citizenship would not differentiate between the two groups. >> my heart goes out to the valedictorians brought here by their parents. but we cannot put our sympathies for people in that condition greater than our love for the rule of law, or the sovereignty of the united states of america. >> the conservative
the fun way, from phillips'. >>> new this morning, a top official is pushing back against a report the nsa frequently violated privacy rules after the "washington post" published documents released by edward snowden saying the nsa overstepped its legal authority thousands of times each year since congress granted it broad new powers in 2008. the number was extremely low compared with overall activities. they are vowing more oversight. joining me now is ed o'keefe and wanda summers. public affairs and media affairs releasing this statement. nsa's foreign collection activities are continually audited and overseen internally and externally. when nsa makes a mistake, the agency reports the issue internally and to federal overseers and aggressively gets to the bottom of it. nancy pelosi calls this extremely disturbing. ed, you cover congress. what are you hearing from reactions? >> nancy pelosi and dianne feinstein, the type of people who would know what's going on because they serve on the intelligence committee. she has been on the intelligence committee for years and has been receiving them
the next shoe to drop is. i'm martha maccallum. the nsa reportedly intercepted calls from americans on american soil. many times they say it was by accident. sometimes an area code was a mix-up between egypt and washington, d.c. but either way, when these mistakes were made, although we've been told that the government tried to be as transparent as possible, nobody was told that those mistakes were made and the information that we got in this report from the "washington post" last night comes from edward snowden, the man who leaked the initial information about the nsa program and now has temporary asylum in russia. bill: funny how that works, huh? senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler is on vacation with the president at martha's vineyard. actually wendell's working. the president is on vacation. what's the white house saying about this, wendell? >> reporter: the white house appears to have been blindsided by this sorry. officials are referring reporters to the national security agency and to senate intelligence committee chair dianne feinstein who says in
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america's underpants. i wonder what our prison cells will look like when the nsa has us all arrested for thought crime. that's spectacular. [ applause ] >> that's a huge conspiracy theory. that's like way off the reservation. >> stephanie: that and a few burns and we're ready to go. >> we need to pad captain america's underpants. >> stephanie: who got to teach spinning class yesterday? who was on the big girl bike? >> i didn't teach it but the instructor is injured and she asked me to ride for her yesterday. >> stephanie: i could not be prouder of our little girl. [ ♪ magic wand ] >> it is a lot of pressure to be up on that platform. >> did you tell her that was weakness leaving the body? >> my weakness leaving the body. >> stephanie: very proud of you. here she is, noted spinning instructor, jacki schechner. >> stop it. please. good morning, everybody. if you were early to bed and early to rise like we are, you may have missed the president's appearance on "the tonight show" last night. jay leno got pretty serious with president obama asking him questions about everything from hi
of things i really question, you know, the legality of the drone strikes and the nsa revelations are -- you know, it's like -- you know, jimmy carter came out and said we don't live in a democracy. and that's a little -- that's a little intense when an ex-president says that. so, you know, he's got some explaining to do. particularly for a constitutional law professor. >> must have. blue shirt day on bet. anyway, on friday, obama called a press conference to address his relationship with damon directly. >> we have conversations. they're candid, they're blunt. often times they're constructive. i know the press likes to focus on body language, and he's got that kind of slouch, looking like the bored kid in the back of the classroom, but the truth is that when we're in conversations together, often times it's very productive. >> that's exactly what you say when you dump somebody. oh, you know, it's actually not so bad. because you're not the one profess dumped, president obama. you know what's not very productive, interrupting a guy's workout. >> president obama is the guy doing push-ups and t
be awesome. thank you very much, toure and jimmy you williams. appreciate it. coming up, the nsa pushes back against "the washington post" and allegations an of mass private sit violations. stay with us. [ man ] 5, 4... [ command center ] this is command center. [ man ] ...3, 2, 1. [ command center ] all systems go. [ female announcer ] introducing swiffer steamboost powered by bissell. steam-activated cleaning pads penetrate deep. [ command center ] we have lift off. [ female announcer ] don't just clean your floor. boost it. that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and save you up to thousands of dollars in out-of-pocket costs. call today to request a free decision guide to help you better understand what medicare is all about. and which aarp medicare supplement plan works best for you. with these types of plan
by nsa surveillance. i think the report in "the washington post" showing that there were more than 2700 incidents in which the nsa broke and violated is going to get more press. democrats are already reacting negatively to it. we've seen patrick leahy on the senate judiciary saying that he's going to hold hearings. even nancy pelosi who has been supportive of the president here says she's quite troubled and regular critics like senator ron wyden have released a letter saying this is the only the tip of the iceberg. there's still a lot we don't know. >> harry, what are you hearing down there? is this something that has already got the far left up in arms or much to do about nothing? >> they voted to defund this program a month ago. i think you're going to have real issues when the congress gets back. there's been a lot of pushback. you can see the people that supported the president, kind of pulling back. this is going to be a big issue. if you you're looking for the obama scandal, as the republicans are, this is going to be a big issue. >> nsa? >> nsa. >> christine, what's your headline
calls even more. we will have the latest into the investigation of the nsa and what the loss of privacy means to you. >>> we start this hour with a fox news alert what may be the fist major conflict of the next presidential campaign. it is here already because the rnc is threatening to blacklist two major networks unless they change their ways. welcome, everybody to "america live." i'm jamie colby. >> i'm gregg jarrett. right now, the summer meeting of the republican national committee, rnc, under way in boston, the committee voting to hold cnn and nbc accountable if they indeed go through with plans to air films on the life of hillary clinton. the former first lady senator secretary of state and now early front-runner for the democratic party's nomination for president in 2016. rn krr rnc chairman reince priebus getting a standing ovation today. >> we said to the media with a united voice that a network that spends millions of dollars to spotlight hillary clinton is a network with an obvious bias. that's a network that won't be hosting a single republican primary debate. [ applause ] [
there, chris lavoie, jim ward. before we -- lots of big news obviously, nsa, all of that stuff. however, more importantly, nancy in ohio says omg, thanks to listening to a steph cast, only $4.95 a month, and then taking a shower that sound of trying to get the last drops of shampoo out of my bottle will never sound the same. it sounds exactly like turtle sex. eh, eh. >> stephanie: you don't want to wait. just that last little -- i apologize for that. [ applause ] >> wow! >> stephanie: all right. >> she thought of this when she was in the shower. >> it sounded like someone else's faucet? >> stephanie: right. the guy didn't repair his faucet correctly. that's how it sounds when he needs water. all right. in the meantime, because we should just start monday, we should start the week with some weirdness. >> yeah? >> stephanie: rocky mountain mike for some reason has decided to combine turtle sex, dana loesch, cody the screaming dog and barry white. why not? >> because he can. ♪ >> stephanie: that's weird. [dana loesch screaming] >> wow. >> like having sex with mitch mcconnell. >> stephani
is the nsa trampling on the u.s. constitution? new revelations its gathered thousands and thousands of e-mails from innocent americans. martha: and the race debate is back on the front burner today, sadly. it is there because of three teenagers who are accused of gunning down this college athlete because they were bored. what else do we know here? what a top civil rights leader is now saying about this the victim's heartbroken girlfriend speaks out. >> personally hand-picked quality for the perfect person i think he would be the outcome that you would find. running ou? ♪ the vo: two years of grad school. 20 years with the company. thousands of presentations. and one hard earned partnership. it took a lot of work to get this far. so now i'm supposed to take a back seat when it comes to my investments? there's zero chance of that happening. avo: when you work with a schwab financial consultant, you'll get the guidance you need with the control you want. talk to us today. gregg: bradley manning, the army private sentenced to 35 years in prison for one of the biggest intelligence leaks in
returning after a week long trip to martha's vineyard. he is facing fresh criticism about the nsa after the latest details in the agency's spying scandal. peter doocy live with the details. good morning, peter. >> good morning. the president is going to wake up today amid new calls for members of congress between the nsa. that includes republican senator rand paul who says it is time to ask for the opinion of the supreme court. >> you have to hear both sides. there really needs to be a discussion for people who are a little bit more skeptical of the nsa in an open court i think before the supreme court on this program. >> another republican says senator paul is wrong. senator peter king from new york says the nsa has a high batting average when it comes to preventing terror attacks and protecting individual rights. >> the senator said billions of phone calls were collected but only is00 were reported by the nsa. he says no one's rights from violated. just before president obama went on vacation he said at a res conference at the white house what we aren't hearing about is the government
is not a fan of big government, i share many of those worries. i'm asked constantly about the n.s.a. stuff. i don't know enough of what's going on. but i have this guttural reaction where, no, i don't want my data scooped up vs. the analytical counterterrorism side of me saying, i want their data scooped up. there is something to be had there, a conversation to be had there. i just say that, you know, when you have that conversation, you shouldn't let it -- and i don't think you guys do this, but some people i think now are defining the current threat environment and how things are evolving around the globe with the impetus to wrap this up because they want to declare it over and an end to it. s there's a danger that you go too far in your thinking in that and think you're just going to say it's all over with because i don't want to deal with it anymore. the bottom line is our enemy gets a vote. >> we covered a lot of ground. but there's obviously still a lot of ground we could cover. let me thank our two panelists very much. [applause] and thank you all for coming and i hope to to see you ag
childhood. martha: new details on the nsa surveillance program. the "wall street journal" says the nsa can spy on 75 per of all internet traffic. gregg: 75% of all web traffic. that is an enormous number. while it's supposed to only track foreigners. the "wall street journal" revealing the nsa sometimes keeps e-mails sent by u.s. citizens. martha: we have heard a couple of bombshells. how is this story different? >> reporter: the program edward snowden made public called prism is detailed in this morning's "wall street journal" involve pursuant to the requisite court orders the filtering and gathering of information at the major telecoms companies generated exclusionily between and among innocent u.s. citizens. >> the nsa thinks of collection as the related review. acquisition is different from having an analyst review it and that's when the collection takes place. those bizarre definitions allow the nsa to and secure what's going on even though they are saying the right words. >> reporter: americans will be pleasantly surprised to learn that up to 25% of u.s. traffic isn't being collected
's been too soft on russia and accused nsa leaker edward snowden. >> mr. snowden's being granted asylum in russia is a signal of incredibly bad relations between the united states and russia. and mr. putin putting his thumb right in america's eye. >> reporter: senator john mccain argued that the president underestimated his russian counterpart. >> and i know they like to focus on body language, and he's got that kind of slouch looking like the bored kid in the back of the classroom. >> the president comparing him to the kid in the back of the classroom, i think is very indicative of his lack of appreciation of who vladimir putin is. >> reporter: and renewed debate today about the president's defense of the nsa surveillance programs. >> finally came out last friday trying to come up with ways to salvage the program by window dressing. >> i applaud the president for bringing us there and talking about how do we educate the public that we need this program. >> reporter: all this as snowden's father says he now has the papers to visit his son in russia whom he continues to defend. >> what i
to that new "the washington post" report concerning the nsa. the report says the nsa broke privacy rules or overstep its legal authority thousands of time each year since 2008. >>> it's not a problem. it worked. if you have 99.9% compliance and so few reporting errors this came from an internal report which then becomes part of an overall ig report. i'm on the intelligence committee. i'm satisfied we're told. >> the problem and there is a real problem with the system. it's a black box, the fisa court is a secret tribunal issuing secret opinions making secret law and a lot of it completely unavailable to members even of the foreign intelligence committee. >> those documents published by the "the washington post" were leaked by edward snowden. >>> this weekend has been a wash out in parts of the south. heavy rains flooded several streets in north carolina and more rain is expected through the weekend. will it end? when is the question. we have more on that. >> we're still keeping an eye on the rain up and down the east coast. it's streaming in off the gulf of mexico and the southeast will
phone numbers on calls around the country about the nsa the intelligence agency meant to rotech you has -- protect you, has lawmakers questioning constitutionality of these programs. they believe, critics that they're gathering too much information on the american people. others on capitol hill say no, this is for your safety. watch. >> it is not a problem of the fact it is it worked. if you have 99.9% compliance and self-reporting errors these came from internal report which becomes part of an overall ig report. i'm on the intelligence committee. i am satisfied. martha: peter king is satisfied. let's talk to fox news chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge live in washington. catherine, really this is a bipartisan issue. there is across the board opposition to these programs right? >> reporter: that's right, martha. what is striking about the latest revelations both democrats and republicans believe. [sa has not followed the rules laid down by congress. a long time republican critic of government surveillance programs says mr. obama bears some of the blame. >> i think the p
and is not different from our concerns about the nsa. it is not different from our concerns about the racial profiling. and now the idea that simply because of someone's class status which is what we're talking about here means you should be fingerprinted and that, just saying we want to do this for the record, we want to do this to prevent crime. he is making a presumption poor people should be kept as a kind of preemptive device so we know eventually you will commit crime and we'll have you on the record then. so it goes against the presumption of innocence. it goes against the 4th amendment and is really stunning he was able to stand up and make that statement. >> my guests, a big thanks to both of you for being with me. don't forget new york police commissioner ray kelly will be david gregory's guest tomorrow on nbc's "meet the press." check your local listings. >>> a witness to history. the fight for civil rights told through the eyes of a black butler in the white house. we are going to talk to the journalist whose reporting inspired the movie and best selling book. >> wow. amazing. thank you so
has changed position here. remember, when the guardian newspaper first. exposed the nsa was conducting millions more searches than it told congress, the president insisted there was nothing wrong with the program. first he said the nsa had already achieved the right balance. >> on balance, you know, we have established a process and a procedure that the american people should feel comfortable about. but when you actually look at the details, then i think we've struck the right balance. >> second, even though reports show the nsa was sketly ducking the rules, the president told us the court and its judges had it covered. >> we also have federal judges that we put in place who are not subject to political pressure. >> and third, president obama said the programs were sufficiently transparent, in fact, when asked if government should explain the new authorities which it had expanded without any public debate at the time, president obama said the court was transparent enough. >> should this be transparent in some way? >> it is transparent. that's why we set up the fisa court. >> so accordi
a thing. >> absolutely. the other big national security story, the nsa and surveillance programs. yet more revelations just this past week. wall street journal reporting it covers 75% of all internet traffic in the united states. cokie, my question to you, the public has been supportive of these programs, but these drip, drip, drip revelations, are we going to reach a tipping point? >> doesn't look like it at the moment. i think, you know, we're going to have senator feinstein is going to hold hearings when congress is back in session. and there will be a libertarian and liberal coalition of people saying we've got to stop this. but i would be very, very surprised if congress actually does anything about this. >> well, the first thing they should do is have a little bit more oversight. when you see the pfizer court and others talking about violations, that's a problem. and the president and the administration needs to get ahead of this dripping and leaking because more is being revealed every day. >> when the president came out and announced he was going to do some reforms and review all o
that n.s.a. snooping was more extensive than we thought as more leaked documents show thousands of privacy violations every year. katherine is live in d.c. taking a look at this. i guess there are people on both sides of the aisle in opposition to the programs, right? >> well, there are. what is striking about the latest revelations is that democrats and republicans believe the n.s.a. has not followed the rules laid down by congress. as for the president who returned last night from vacation, on the sunday talk shows a long time republican critic of government surveillance programs said mr. obama bears some of the blame. >> he thinks that if he gets some lawyers together from the n.s.a. and they do a power point presentation and tell him everything is okay, that the n.s.a. can police themselves. >> the n.s.a. says that thousands of violations were unintentional and steps were taken to limit or mitigation the american civil liberties. republicans and democrats are not satisfied. the broib is justified. >> getting all of the phone calls from all americans in the united states unde
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